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Sovereign Gold Coins - What is the Obsession?  
Gold Sovereign Value

Article by Daniel Hurth

Since gold Sovereigns were originally minted in the United Kingdom during the year 1489, during the rule of Henry VII, the public have been enraptured by them. This piece looks at the causes for this lure.Why Are We Lured to Gold? -- The factors influencing this are a little ambiguous and tricky to follow, but humans have always felt an unfathomable, emotional attraction to gold. Gold has always been viewed as holding intrinsic value unlike other metals, and that feeling of value attracts humans like a magnet. A rationale for this could be the unique colour and shiny lustre of gold. One more motivation for man's attraction to gold just might be the malleable consistency of gold which makes it easily incorporated into composite jewelry items. And comparing to different metals gold is pretty heavy, and that is a factor that would have added to its reputability as a store of wealth.A Secure Investment in Perilous Times -- During hard financial climates or periods of fighting and shakiness, gold normally becomes a safe haven into which investors shift their capital. We've heard stories of human beings hiding bullion coins in the back of their homes' door posts, so that no matter what happens to their other wealth, they will continue to be in possession of considerable savings in the form of gold. All through the last two or three years, the financial trouble and the near-fall of some of the main financial institutions has once more brought gold to the forefront as the safe haven of choice, sending the price of gold coins and bullion surging to record levels.There`s Value in Rarity -- Coin collectors or numismatists aren't the only people who hold British Sovereigns for their rarity value. People who invest can benefit too from buying a British Sovereign rather than a gold ingot. After all, there will only ever be so many Edward VII gold Sovereigns in the world, while they are likely pumping out gold bullion bars like clockwork. Some of the very first gold Sovereigns, stretching back to the rule of Henry VII and Henry VIII, are worth amounts very much in excess of their pure gold value, and even more recently issued Sovereigns typically cost at least a small premium. With that kind of premium value, we know the reason that people are so fascinated by gold coins, principally those with a distinctive cultural significance like the British Sovereign.A Useful Investment -- The final cause for the fascination with bullion coins rather than bullion bars is simple convenient portability and convenience. You can amass your stash more easily, possibly storing parts of your collection in various places for safekeeping. You can move about parts of your collection a little at a time however you want. There's no need to hire a truck to transport your investment around. You can hide it too, if that's what you want to do.The long-term obsession with gold Sovereign coins continues until this day. That obsession shows no sign of declining.Learn more about British Sovereigns and other coins like American Buffalo coins.

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Elizabeth Bourchier, wife of Oliver Cromwell


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Elizabeth Cromwell [née Bourchier] (1598–1665) was the wife of Oliver Cromwell, Lord Protector of England, Scotland and Ireland. She is sometimes referred to as the Lady Protectress or Protectress Joan.

On 22 August 1620 at St.Giles, Cripplegate, London she married Oliver Cromwell.[1] The marriage produced nine children, eight of whom reached adulthood. The marriage to Elizabeth was very advantageous for Cromwell, as her father brought him into contact with the wealthy merchant community of London, and due to the extensive lands Sir James owned in Essex, this family association would later guarantee him much support from the influential families of the local puritan gentry. At the time of his marriage, however, Cromwell had not yet become a puritan zealot. Their marriage was happy, and they were devoted to one another. This can be attested by the solicitous love letters Cromwell wrote to Elizabeth while away on his military campaigns. Some of these were published in an anthology of love letters written by Antonia Fraser in 1976.[2]

The abuse which was heaped on her husband has naturally been shared by his homely lady. The Cavaliers styled her contemptuously Joan, and accused her of every manner of vice, among which drunkenness and adultery were the most prominent. As the charges, however, appear to have been without foundation, the libels fell probably harmless.[3]

The Protectress was the daughter of Sir James Bourchier, Knt. of Felsted in Essex, who was a wealthy London leather merchant and his wife Frances Crane, daughter of Thomas Crane of Newton Tony, Wiltshire.[4][5] She was born on an unknown date in 1598. Elizabeth was the eldest of twelve children.[6]

Harris speaks of the Bourchiers as "an ancient family;" but Noble, who was better informed, is of a different opinion. It was only in 1610, he tells us,that Sir James obtained a grant of arms; and he adds that the only occasion when the arms of the Bourchiers were quartered with those of the Protector was at his funeral, when they appeared on the escutcheons. She was born on an unknown date in 1598. She is known to have been introduced to Charles I, at the time that the unfortunate monarch was a prisoner at Hampton Court, and on good terms with her husband: Ashburnham took her by the hand and presented her to the King, by whom, together with the ladies of Ireton and Whalley, she was afterwards entertained.[5]

A miniature of Elizabeth Cromwell was painted by miniature painter Samuel Cooper who describes her as "neither uncomely or undignified in person.". However John Heneage Jesse writing in 1846 concludes that "in person, the Protectress was exceedingly plain", in allusion to which Cowley, in his " Cutter of Colman Street," puts the following passage into the mouth of Cutter :—" He [Worm] would have been my lady Protectress's poet: he writ once a copy in praise of her beauty ; but her Highness gave for it but an old half-crown piece in gold, which she had hoarded up before these troubles, and that discouraged him from any further applications to court." She is said to have had a defect in one of her eyes; and as even Waller neglected to celebrate her beauty, there can be little question as to her want of comeliness.[3]

The passage which has been just quoted from Cowley, contains a double satire. The hoarding of the half-crown piece has evidently reference to her supposed thriftiness. "She very frugally housewifed it," says Heath," and would nicely and finically tax the expensive unthriftiness (as she said) of the other woman [Henrietta Maria] who lived there before her."[7]

A very curious pamphlet, entitled the Court and Kitchen of Mrs. Joan Cromwell, would appear to have been the production of some disappointed denizen of the royal kitchen, who mingles the decline of cookery with the decline of the empire, and sighs over the economy of the protectoral entertainments, compared with former banquets and former magnificence. Altogether, the work comprises little more than an insignificant and scurrilous attack on the private character and household dispensation of the Protectress, against whom the author apparently bears a strong personal pique.[7]

The abuse is shortly afterwards repeated. "Much ado had she at first to raise her mind and deportment to this sovereign grandeur; and very difficult it was for her to lay aside those impertinent meannesses of her private fortune: like the bride-cat, by Venus's favour metamorphosed into a comely virgin, that could not forbear catching at mice, she could not comport with her present condition, nor forget the common converse and affairs of life. But like some kitchen-maid, preferred by the lust of some rich and noble dotard, was ashamed of her sudden and gaudy bravery, and for a while skulked up and down the house, till the fawning observance and reverences of her slaves had raised her to a confidence, not long after sublimed into an impudence." Her behaviour, however, on her elevation is somewhat differently represented by Ludlow. The republican, who knew her personally and well, informs us that when her husband changed his residence from the cockpit at Whitehall to the royal palace, she was at first anything but gratified with the splendid change in her domestic arrangements. Heath, on the contrary asserts, that "she was trained up and made the waiting woman of Cromwell's providence, and lady rampant of his successful greatness, which she personated afterwards as imperiously as himself."[8]

In a curious pasquinade of the period, entitled " The Cuckoo's Nest at Westminster," there is introduced the following ludicrous dialogue between the Protectress and Lady Fairfax.[9] This broadside was printed in 1648, some years previous to Cromwell's inauguration in the Protectorship. Its value consists in exhibiting how early and how generally the Usurper's views of personal aggrandizement were seen through by his contemporaries.[10]

The two charges, of intemperance and a love of intrigue, which have been brought against the Protectress, rest almost entirely on the authority of an indecent and scurrilous pamphlet, entitled "News from the New Exchange." John Heneage Jesse opinion "its venomous absurdities are unworthy of notice".[11]

Setting aside mere assertion and party invective, it is not difficult to ascertain the real character of the Protectress. She may have had petty meannesses as well as private virtues, but there seem to have been no marked features in her character, nothing in fact which raised her above any ordinary woman. Lilburne evidently implies that she possessed a certain influence over her husband, since he accuses her of having disposed of military appointments during the generalship of Cromwell. Granger also appears to be of the same opinion. — " It has been asserted," he says, " that she was as deeply interested herself in steering the helm, as she had often done in turning the spit; and that she was as constant a spur to her husband in the career of his ambition, as she had been to her servants in their culinary employments." All that we know, however, of the life and character of the Protectress would tend to liberate her from these charges. She seems to have laudably confined herself to the details of domestic life, nor is there any authenticated instance of her having exercised the slightest political influence over her husband. Cromwell was himself too stern in his nature to be much influenced by women, and too cautious to entrust them with his intrigues. He appears, therefore, to have been by no means forward in making her a sharer in that power, a portion of which a strong-minded woman might nevertheless have contrived to obtain. Besides, not one of her relations were partakers of her greatness, and Cromwell's behaviour to her appears throughout to have been rather that of a man who respects his wife as the mother of his children, than for any mental or personal qualifications of her own.[12]

The great argument against her having been a participator in his ambitious views, is the singular and undoubted fact that she endeavoured to persuade her husband to recall the young King. As most of her offspring were royalists, and as children are more frequently biassed by the example and opinions of the mother, probably she was little gratified with the usurpation of her husband. Thus, what we really know of the Protectress inclines us to take part with her panegyrists. She has, at least, the negative praise of not having outstepped the modesty of her sex, by obtruding her name unnecessarily on the public.[13]

Only one of her letters is said to be extant. It was found among Milton's State Papers, and is addressed to the Protector. It is merely the affectionate epistle of an homely wife to her absent husband, and is scarcely worth transcribing. The orthography is wretched, even for the period in which it was written. We must not omit to mention, as a favourable trait in her character, that the Protectress maintained six daughters of clergymen, whom she constantly employed at needlework in her own apartments.[14]

After the death of her husband, and the abdication of her son Richard, at a time when the Cromwells had ceased to retain the least influence in affairs of state, the army paid her the compliment of considering her wants, and compelled the Parliament to settle on her a suitable maintenance. The Restoration, however, following shortly afterwards, she thought it necessary to seek safety in flight, and, with this view, had collected together a large quantity of valuables, with the intention of getting them conveyed out of the kingdom. But her design becoming known to the council of state, a survey was ordered to be held on them, and several articles belonging to the royal family being discovered, she was obliged to depart without even such insignificant remains of her former greatness.[15]

The seizure of these articles is announced in the journals of the period. " Whitehall, May 12, 1660. Information being given that there were several of his Majesty's goods at a fruiterer's warehouse near the Three Cranes, in Thames Street, London, which were there kept as the goods of Mrs. Eliz. Cromwell, wife to Oliver Cromwell, deceased, sometimes called Protector, and it being not very improbable that the said Mrs. Cromwell might convey away some such goods, the Council ordered persons to view the same."[16][17]

"May 16, 1660. Amongst the goods that were pretended to be Mrs. Cromwell's, at the fruiterer's warehouse, are discovered some pictures, and other things belonging to his Majesty: the remainder lay attached in the custody of Lieut. Col. Cox."[18]

Granger was assured that, after the downfall of her family, the Protectress resided for some time in Switzerland, but the fact is unsupported by other evidence. She certainly retired for a short period into Wales, where she remained till the excitement incident on the Restoration had in some degree subsided.[19] She then moved to the house of her son-in-law, John Claypole, at Norborough in Northhamptonshire, where she remained until died in November 1665 and was buried in Northborough church on 19 November.

Pressday will keep the Waller show rolling
Gold Sovereign Value
THE Chris Waller phenomenon looks certain to continue at Rosehill Gardens, perhaps featuring a form reversal by Pressday in the Hobartville, on a day promising great turf action in two states.

Gold Sovereign Value question by pujajanitz: I have old Gold Sovereign coin?
I have 2 Gold Sovereign coins written as follows on one side: GEORGIVS V D.G.BRITT:OMN:REX F.D.IND:IMP and a warrior riding a horse on the other side. it is of 1918 and 1925
I would like to know the value and wish to sell them.
I said i have two coins one is dated 1918 the other is dated 1925
I have gone to a Jeweller to confirm its solid gold and in Mint condition

Gold Sovereign Value best answer:

Answer by suburban
The value of your gold sovereign, is determined by the price a collector will pay, according to condition.
At the moment of writing, gold is $ 950, per troy ounce.
Please go to a reputable dealer, (see yellow pages)